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Thoughts on ThreeFold?

Just wondered how Holochain relates to ThreeFold, from the perspective of Holochain devs?

Would be great if anyone could share their perspective. The projects are obviously related somewhat.

Thanks,
Chris.

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Im curious as well to hear. I didn’t find all too much about this projet but it seems to follow similar goals as holochain. But I personallly am still sceptical, but to be honest didn’t really looked into it all too much.

And first I heard of holochain I also thought it is kinda too good to be true.

Also while researching i found some people saying that there was premined coins on block 12 and all investments of people were swaped with an untradable token. But didn’t find any proof about that case.

So If anybody has good links or resources drop them here :slight_smile:

I suspect TF being a fraudulent organisation. There are several indications from public sources that tokens were not minted, but were printed.

This link shows that tokens were printed just when the ‘blockchain’ of TF started. There has always been said that tokens are backed by capacity

https://explorer.threefoldtoken.com/hash.html?hash=a68e8d60a7be47ada69deeb1213d3e12489d50d0c451895678c42c49d04863b1

With that block it is shown that they were printed.

Also the minting process that shows that there is decentralization is done manually.

Another concern I have discovered is about the code

https://github.com/threefoldtech/jumpscaleX_core is the core of Jumpscale, what drives 3bot, but doesn’t contain libs

Disclaimer: I am a long term follower of holochain project, but I decided to remain anonymous for various reasons.

here are the actual 3bot packages: https://github.com/threefoldtech/jumpscaleX_threebot/tree/development/ThreeBotPackages

you will find stuff around the grid and tft, but nothing that does actual minting. that code is in a private repo, but is nothing to do with their tech. Certainly nothing to do with the 3bot / jsx stuff

I recently discovered Threefold. In the video here https://wiki.threefold.io/#/howitworks_2 the guy states that the threefold grid is energeticaly more efficient than server farms. In one slide he claims to provide an explanation but fails miserably.

Apart from any technical argument, that unsustained claim alone put me off completely. I think server farms are energetically more efficient than a bunch of separate devices operating in various physical conditions. Farms are engineered to be efficient and take advantage of centralization for that. Some are located in cold places, Microsoft is even experimenting with underwater farms. Why would you lie about energy consumption with a straight face, to look good? It doesn’t take much to debunk that claim. Just do the math from the specks of their boxes. But they must know that… It tell me something about their culture… They don’t inspire trust.